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what're your ideas? ناشر الموضوع: William Yang
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | Some feedbacks already | Mar 7, 2022 |
I know my English level should be raised and CV will be revamped. More reading and get more specialized, which are what I'm doing now.
Ice Scream wrote:
I’m sorry William, but can you explain what exactly you wanted ideas on? I still have no idea.
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Samuel Murray 
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William Yang wrote: Samuel Murray wrote:
Well, I can assure you that unjustified negative feedback and having one's translations destroyed by a poor quality proofreader is all part of the business... I can easily assure you that you're slandering and scheming for unknown reasons.
Another skill that is useful for a translator to have is to have a thick skin and not to have a chip on the shoulder. Clients respond best if they are treated with courtesy. Always assume good faith, is the best policy in business.
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Brian Joyce
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| Eehhhhhh??????????? | Mar 7, 2022 |
I love this guy even though I haven't the faintest idea what he's talking about.
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Vanda Nissen
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| Happy to hear that I am not the only one | Mar 7, 2022 |
Brian Joyce wrote:
I love this guy even though I haven't the faintest idea what he's talking about.
The same here. I think even Samuel Beckett would have been jealous after reading this thread;).
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | cannot get the point? | Mar 8, 2022 |
I am not native, but my English is clear.
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William Yang
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I'm reasonable.Normally I'm open to new ideas. I never curry favor with anyone and never intend to be rude.
[Edited at 2022-03-08 03:03 GMT]
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | do you mean reading more will help people know more about life and have less prejudice? | Mar 8, 2022 |
Vanda Nissen wrote: Brian Joyce wrote:
I love this guy even though I haven't the faintest idea what he's talking about. The same here. I think even Samuel Beckett would have been jealous after reading this thread;).
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | why "we" not "you"? Are you conspiring sth? | Mar 8, 2022 |
And it doesn't make your English better than me. I may misinterpret but that's the part of language.
Barbara Carrara wrote: William Yang wrote:
this is the first day, no fun.
Imagine how we feel...
[Edited at 2022-03-08 03:58 GMT]
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LIZ LI
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It's a common practice to ONLY translate into your native language in MOST places in the world.
When people don't understand why, they ask questions.
This is a place for discussion. I think that you overacted.
You may be an experienced translator, but I'm pretty sure that you are new to this forum.
Keep your mind open or at least try as hard as u can, though some may not be as friendly as you think.
Some unbiased opinions are found in this thread no matter what...... See more It's a common practice to ONLY translate into your native language in MOST places in the world.
When people don't understand why, they ask questions.
This is a place for discussion. I think that you overacted.
You may be an experienced translator, but I'm pretty sure that you are new to this forum.
Keep your mind open or at least try as hard as u can, though some may not be as friendly as you think.
Some unbiased opinions are found in this thread no matter what...
Try your humor, it works for me.
And for the record, a lot of VMs have been long complaining about the lack of qualified translators working from Chinese into other languages.
Same for the whole CCJK markets & Arabic & rarer pairs.
Most translators working in ZH>EN are actually native Chinese living in a foreign land.
No matter how idiomatic their translations are, it doesn't change the fact that they are non-natives.
William Yang wrote:
And it doesn't make your English better than me.
mine....
[Edited at 2022-03-08 05:14 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | You're right, I'm totally the kind of lacking humor | Mar 8, 2022 |
LIZ LI wrote:
It's a common practice to ONLY translate into your native language in MOST places in the world.
Try your humor, it works for me.
Most translators working in ZH>EN are actually native Chinese living in a foreign land.
No matter how idiomatic their translations are, it doesn't change the fact that they are non-natives.
[Edited at 2022-03-08 04:16 GMT]
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Mihai Badea (X)
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| A good way to improve your English | Mar 8, 2022 |
is to read books in English, preferably written by native speakers.
I would suggest reading on topics that are relevant to your specialisation as a translator would be a better time investment than otherwise.
There is a new trend now for books and scientific papers to be published in open regime, so free to read in digital form. Even prestigious publishing houses offer such books.
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For business success, other elements might be required as well:
... See more is to read books in English, preferably written by native speakers.
I would suggest reading on topics that are relevant to your specialisation as a translator would be a better time investment than otherwise.
There is a new trend now for books and scientific papers to be published in open regime, so free to read in digital form. Even prestigious publishing houses offer such books.
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For business success, other elements might be required as well:
• business-like presentation;
• a professional photo;
• a professional email;
etc.
Tip:
Wordpress, in their most basic paid plan offer a wonderful easy-to-use email facility, for no additional cost. It is a limited email service (just forwarding), but it allows one to have an email address on the domain of choice, subject to availability and subsequent payment.
However, such a choice - which is a smart choice, in my humble opinion - needs careful consideration before commitment. ▲ Collapse
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William Yang
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بادئ الموضوع | the book I'm reading now, The Psychology of Money | Mar 8, 2022 |
Mihai Badea wrote:
is to read books in English, preferably written by native speakers.
I would suggest reading on topics that are relevant to your specialisation as a translator would be a better time investment than otherwise.
There is a new trend now for books and scientific papers to be published in open regime, so free to read in digital form. Even prestigious publishing houses offer such books.
***
For business success, other elements might be required as well:
• business-like presentation;
• a professional photo;
• a professional email;
etc.
Tip:
Wordpress, in their most basic paid plan offer a wonderful easy-to-use email facility, for no additional cost. It is a limited email service (just forwarding), but it allows one to have an email address on the domain of choice, subject to availability and subsequent payment.
However, such a choice - which is a smart choice, in my humble opinion - needs careful consideration before commitment.
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William Yang
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我冒犯谁了？都是挣钱吃饭，有良心吗？
有本事做一家华为一样的公司。尽搞这些窝里斗！
[Edited at 2022-03-08 07:28 GMT]
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Barbara Carrara
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| GT helping out | Mar 8, 2022 |
William Yang wrote:
我冒犯谁了？都是挣钱吃饭，有良心吗？
有本事做一家华为一样的公司。尽搞这些窝里斗！
[Edited at 2022-03-08 07:28 GMT]
Google Translate says:
'Is it so interesting?
Who am I offending? They are all making money to eat, do you have a conscience?'
(Credit to Samuel M. who, as far as I am aware, started the 'GT helpline' whenever foreign languages appear in the English forum pages.)
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matt robinson
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William Yang wrote:
I am not native, but my English is clear.
And that is the point I was making when I said "you don't know what you don't know". You obviously think your English is good. If I were proofing it I would have to be on the phone to you every other sentence to ask you what you were trying to say. This is not a personal criticism. You have the level you have.
If you tell potential clients that you need a proofreader to work on your text before submission that is not a strong selling point. It shows that you single yourself out from among the many translators working in the pair as someone whose language skills (Chinese>English) are not up to the task.
Play to your strengths, not your weaknesses. If not, you will damage your professional reputation sooner or later.
[Edited at 2022-03-08 14:53 GMT]
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