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William Yang
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For the past year, translating has been fit into daily engagement. What's frustrating is after I took some tests arranged by a number of companies, I found some feedbacks negative. They just need flawless products. At the same time, I found some translation I reviewed for some companies just messed up and lost in meaning or diction but was told human did.
That's rediculous. If recruiters don't value quality translators, they will leave.
A new sign in China I have found is that compa... See more For the past year, translating has been fit into daily engagement. What's frustrating is after I took some tests arranged by a number of companies, I found some feedbacks negative. They just need flawless products. At the same time, I found some translation I reviewed for some companies just messed up and lost in meaning or diction but was told human did.
That's rediculous. If recruiters don't value quality translators, they will leave.
A new sign in China I have found is that companies are recruiting more and more inhouse translators with better salaries. And for your take as a freelancer, I'm looking forward to hearing from you. ▲ Collapse
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Tom in London
United Kingdom
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Italian to English
| Chinese to English? | Mar 7, 2022 |
William Yang wrote:
For the past year, translating has been fit into daily engagement. What's frustrating is after I took some tests arranged by a number of companies, I found some feedbacks negative. They just need flawless products. At the same time, I found some translation I reviewed for some companies just messed up and lost in meaning or diction but was told human did.
That's rediculous. If recruiters don't value quality translators, they will leave.
A new sign in China I have found is that companies are recruiting more and more inhouse translators with better salaries. And for your take as a freelancer, I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
Your profile says that you translate from Chinese to English- but your English is not good.
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William Yang
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A mistake here, I mean I have a cover letter which tells my clients I use native proofreader.
Tom in London write:
Your profile says that you translate from Chinese to Enrglish- but your English is not good.
I have never said I'm perfect I always told my clients I have proofreader. And you have not seen worse So I doubt your intentions.
[Edited at 2022-03-07 16:10 GMT]
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Samuel Murray 
Netherlands
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William Yang wrote:
What's frustrating is after I took some tests arranged by a number of companies, I found some feedbacks negative. They just need flawless products.
Clients do expect a degree of flawlessness from translators, yes.
I had a look at your résumé to see if I could give you some feedback. A résumé is a document that the author spends a lot of time on to make it perfect. If a résumé contains errors, it means that either the author thought that that is what it is supposed to be like, or the author is so imprecise that he doesn't care (nor will he be precise and careful with a client's work).
If I was looking for a Chinese-English translator, I would not hire you, for these reasons: the first page of your résumé has 17 very visible errors on it.
[screenshot removed on Yubing's request]
I realise that you translate mainly from English and not into English, but you should be familiar with English conventions anyway, if you translate from it.
William Yang wrote:
I have never said I'm perfect. I always told my clients I have proofreader.
Why did you not use the proofreader for your résumé? Why did you not use the proofreader for the test translations that you received the negative feedback about?
[Edited at 2022-03-07 16:29 GMT]
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William Yang
China
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TOPIC STARTER | You published my CV without consulting me. | Mar 7, 2022 |
You made me think you're nasty and rude.
[Edited at 2022-03-07 15:42 GMT]
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William Yang
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TOPIC STARTER | It's obvious you're dragging me to your dark unfame | Mar 7, 2022 |
Delete or hide my CV, Samuel.
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Paul Malone
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| Wouldn't it be better to concentrate on translating into your native language? | Mar 7, 2022 |
What about concentrating on translating from English into Chinese and aiming to produce flawless translations in that language combination?
I believe that that would be a better strategy for you than attempting to translate into a non-native language and not making a very good job of it. Although you may well be excellent at translating from Chinese into English - something I would not be able or qualified to judge - you risk ruining your credibility by translating in the opposite d... See more What about concentrating on translating from English into Chinese and aiming to produce flawless translations in that language combination?
I believe that that would be a better strategy for you than attempting to translate into a non-native language and not making a very good job of it. Although you may well be excellent at translating from Chinese into English - something I would not be able or qualified to judge - you risk ruining your credibility by translating in the opposite direction unless you can do so to a level at least approaching a professional standard. ▲ Collapse
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William Yang
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TOPIC STARTER | Your post with my CV is still there Sanmual | Mar 7, 2022 |
Erase it right away. Thanks in advance.
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William Yang
China
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TOPIC STARTER | I don't see any reasons why I should not do the pair of Chinese into English | Mar 7, 2022 |
I understand Chinese better and I have an English native proofread, which is better than an English native working on his/her own with the language pair.
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matt robinson
Spain
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Spanish to English
| Your English is not good enough | Mar 7, 2022 |
Don't take it the wrong way; it is not meant as a criticism. The problem is you don't know what you don't know. For example, I have been living and working in Spain since 1992. I consider my Spanish to be pretty good, but I know it's not good enough for me to use as target in translations. I only offer Spanish>English, and I always recommend others not to offer both directions, from both a practical and a marketing point of view. Why not simply offer English>Chinese?
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William Yang
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TOPIC STARTER | many times i told my clients and this forum again and again. | Mar 7, 2022 |
I work with an English native proofreader.
matt robinson wrote:
Don't take it the wrong way; it is not meant as a criticism. The problem is you don't know what you don't know. For example, I have been living and working in Spain since 1992. I consider my Spanish to be pretty good, but I know it's not good enough for me to use as target in translations. I only offer Spanish>English, and I always recommend others not to offer both directions, from both a practical and a marketing point of view. Why not simply offer English>Chinese?
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Paul Malone
France
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| There are many reasons, some of which have already been mentioned. | Mar 7, 2022 |
No criticism is intended at all. I was attempting to give you advice, based on my own experience, as to what I would probably do if I found myself in your circumstances. If you don't see any reasons why not to translate from Chinese into English, then that suggests that you disagree with the reasons that have already been mentioned in this thread. The title of your post is "What are your ideas?" Did you start this thread because you were seeking advice, or was there some other reason?
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Barbara Carrara
Italy
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| Pardon my French | Mar 7, 2022 |
Despite you reiterating that,
William Yang wrote:
I use native proofreader.
I have proofreader.
I have an English native proofread
I work with an English native proofreader.
I am afraid you'll need more than just a proofreader when it comes to your English language skills.
And I am saying this as an Italian translator, translating EXCLUSIVELY into Italian, my native language.
Good luck, and don't f**k it up! (RuPaul docet.)
[Edited at 2022-03-07 16:44 GMT]
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William Yang
China
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TOPIC STARTER | My intentions | Mar 7, 2022 |
My intention to seek advice is about the market trends and I may have other options besides translating. I'm not cutting or removing the corner to sacrifice other people's interest.
You saying "You I don't know what you don't know" sounds like common sense applicable any situation so it's worthless to me.
Did you start this thread because you were seeking advice, or was there some other reason?
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