| Pages in topic: [1 2] > | Let's meet the winners of "Game on" Thread poster: Julieta Llamazares
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Hi everyone!
I'm happy to announce that the winners of "Game on" in the following language pairs have been selected by the community:
English to Spanish: <... See more
| | | | expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 21:46
Member (2015)
English to Portuguese
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| I'm sorry, I couldn't help it | Sep 2, 2021 |
I have to say I have never participated in a ProZ.com Translation Contest, but the English to Portuguese (EU) text is everything except European Portuguese.
I'm sorry, but we need to be honest here, after all Proz.com is a community/group of language professionals!
As for the winner... no offence meant. As I said above, we must be fair.
[Edited at 2021-09-02 21:14 GMT]
[Edited at 2021-09-02 21:15 GMT]
| | | | mlceron
Venezuela
Local time: 16:46
English to Spanish
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| Looking forward to the next contest | Sep 2, 2021 |
Hi Julieta, I am new to ProZ.com. When does the next contest start? I would love to participate in the English to Spanish pair! Thank you
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This translation contest is going from bad to worse year after year. The European Portuguese contest this year was won by a… Brazilian!
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| Next contest will be available soon | Sep 3, 2021 |
Hi mlceron! A new translation contest will be available soon. It will be announced here on the forums as well as by email and through ProZ.com social media, so make sure to stay tuned!
Teresa and expressisverbis, thank you for the heads-up. I will review this situation.
Have a nice day,
Julieta
| | | | Rui Domingues 
Portugal
Local time: 21:46
Member
French to Portuguese
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| Misleading results | Sep 3, 2021 |
As some colleagues already pointed out, the winner translation for the EN-PT European was made by a native Brazilian translator, and looking at the translated text it is indeed Brazilian Portuguese…
There is no point to launch such contests if Proz don’t apply due diligence to confirm if the translations submitted are indeed in the target language.
First, could the Proz team explain why they accept the participation of linguists whose mother tongue is different from the on... See more As some colleagues already pointed out, the winner translation for the EN-PT European was made by a native Brazilian translator, and looking at the translated text it is indeed Brazilian Portuguese…
There is no point to launch such contests if Proz don’t apply due diligence to confirm if the translations submitted are indeed in the target language.
First, could the Proz team explain why they accept the participation of linguists whose mother tongue is different from the one required in the contest for a particular linguistic combination?
With this kind of deceptive results, Proz is contributing to undermine the translation market, helping to convey the idea that there is no difference between the variants of a language.
That’s why some fellow translators claim to be able to translate into both European and Brazilian Portuguese, misleading the clients. There will be always differences, that native speakers will notice.
Proz should revise the results of the contest. ▲ Collapse
| | | | expressisverbis
Portugal
Local time: 21:46
Member (2015)
English to Portuguese
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| I read somewhere... | Sep 3, 2021 |
"ProZ.com translation contests offer a fun way to take a break from your normal routine while testing and honing your skills with fellow translators."
Yes, it was great fun (it took me by surprise) to see a Brazilian Portuguese as a winner in a contest from English to European Portuguese, and I took a deep breath (not a break) when the winner was announced.
If unfairness is seen, site staff members should investigate it. And, if we want the "game on", fair play is neede... See more "ProZ.com translation contests offer a fun way to take a break from your normal routine while testing and honing your skills with fellow translators."
Yes, it was great fun (it took me by surprise) to see a Brazilian Portuguese as a winner in a contest from English to European Portuguese, and I took a deep breath (not a break) when the winner was announced.
If unfairness is seen, site staff members should investigate it. And, if we want the "game on", fair play is needed!
[Edited at 2021-09-03 22:38 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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As entries are judged in two stages, I think it would be very interesting and most helpful to know who voted on this entry and why.
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| Post removed: This post was hidden by a moderator or staff member because it was not in line with site rule | | English to Portuguese (EU)? | Sep 5, 2021 |
Just out of curiosity, I’ve visited the Translator Contest page EN-PT (EU) to see who were the other finalists and to my amazement (and my dismay) from those who are identified two are Portuguese and 5 are Brazilian (not counting the winner)!
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Hello everyone,
As Julieta mentions in her last post, the issue you report with the English to Portuguese (EU) winner entry is being reviewed. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and please submit any further comments or details through the support center.
In the meantime, you are all invit... See more Hello everyone,
As Julieta mentions in her last post, the issue you report with the English to Portuguese (EU) winner entry is being reviewed. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention, and please submit any further comments or details through the support center.
In the meantime, you are all invited to provide feedback on pairs in which no winner could be determined.
Congratulations to the winners and thanks to the +500 users who participated in this contest with an entry, a rate or a vote!
Lucia ▲ Collapse
| | | | | Language variety | Sep 9, 2021 |
I see no problem in the fact that the winner of Portuguese is from Brazil.
The winner from English to Spanish is from...SPAIN and no one from Latin America or elsewhere is complaining!
https://www.proz.com/translation-contests/pair/4238
The same can be said of French. The winner is from...FRANCE and no one from Canada or elsewhere is complaining!
... See more I see no problem in the fact that the winner of Portuguese is from Brazil.
The winner from English to Spanish is from...SPAIN and no one from Latin America or elsewhere is complaining!
https://www.proz.com/translation-contests/pair/4238
The same can be said of French. The winner is from...FRANCE and no one from Canada or elsewhere is complaining!
https://www.proz.com/translation-contests/pair/4261
There should be just one category, not two separate categories. That is the problem with Portuguese!
Otherwise, let's then have 2 or more categories for Spanish (Spain, Latin America, USA, Africa), French (France, Canada, Belgium, Africa), English (UK, USA, Australia, etc...), and any other eligible language. That would indeed make little sense!
In conclusion, let's make it simple and congratulate the Brazilian winner.
[Edited at 2021-09-10 00:11 GMT] ▲ Collapse
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| English to Portuguese (EU) | Sep 9, 2021 |
Wilsonn Perez Reyes wrote: I see no problem in the fact that the winner of Portuguese is from Brazil. The winner from English to Spanish is from...SPAIN and no one from Latin America or elsewhere is complaining! https://www.proz.com/translation-contests/pair/4238[Edited at 2021-09-09 21:55 GMT]
Wilsonn,
For better or for worse, the competition had two separate categories for English to Portuguese (EU) and English to Portuguese (BR) and only one for English to Spanish.
Given that, don't you agree it is a reasonable expectation that the English to Portuguese (EU) entries should comply with the language variant requirement?
| | | | | Little sense | Sep 10, 2021 |
It may be interesting to know why Portuguese has received this different treatment. Is it because of more important differences between these two variants or the number of Brazilian Portuguese speakers relative to Portuguese speakers?
Wilsonn Perez Reyes:
There should be just one category, not two separate categories. That is the problem with Portuguese!
Otherwise, let's then have 2 or more categories for Spanish (Spain, Latin America, USA, Africa), French (France, Canada, Belgium, Africa), English (UK, USA, Australia, etc...), and any other eligible language. That would indeed make little sense!
In conclusion, let's make it simple and congratulate the Brazilian winner.
Maybe it would make little sense, if that was implemented.
But this is hypothetical.
For now, what does indeed make little sense, is to have two different categories and end up with the same variant winner in both.
Would it be OK if a client asked for one specific language variant and received another? Why is this OK then?
Rules cannot be changed retrospectively.
So for now, let's… congratulate two Brazilian* winners.
* Meaning speakers of Brazilian Portuguese. I only focus on language here, not nationality/country of origin.
[Edited at 2021-09-10 15:12 GMT]
| | | | | I am curious too | Sep 10, 2021 |
Jean Dimitriadis wrote:
It may be interesting to know why Portuguese has received this different treatment. Is it because of more important differences between these two variants?
Please let us know.
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