Aug 8, 2006 10:22
17 yrs ago
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Deutsch term
Lebensfreude
Deutsch > Englisch
Geistes- und Sozialwissenschaften
Sozialwissenschaften, Soziologie, Ethik usw.
marketing blurb
Again from CD inlay info: a Latin music compilation where they're talking about the melting pot/poverty trap that is Rio.
"Eine Stadt voller Kontraste: Surfer, sonnenhungrige Touristen, braungebrannte Schönheiten, Karneval und **Lebensfreude** auf der einen, Favelas auf der anderen Seite"
... for which I have:
"A city of contrasts: surfers, sun-worshipping tourists, bronzed beauties, carnival and XX, ..."
I need - may I stress - something that fits in with that (although alternative suggestions are welcome!), whether alliterative or just nicely phrased.
TIA!
(sorry, not sure exactly which Kudoz category this comes under)
"Eine Stadt voller Kontraste: Surfer, sonnenhungrige Touristen, braungebrannte Schönheiten, Karneval und **Lebensfreude** auf der einen, Favelas auf der anderen Seite"
... for which I have:
"A city of contrasts: surfers, sun-worshipping tourists, bronzed beauties, carnival and XX, ..."
I need - may I stress - something that fits in with that (although alternative suggestions are welcome!), whether alliterative or just nicely phrased.
TIA!
(sorry, not sure exactly which Kudoz category this comes under)
Proposed translations
(Englisch)
| 3 +4 | lust for life |
HarryHedgehog
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| 4 +6 | joie de vivre |
Cilian O'Tuama
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| 4 +2 | joi de vivre |
Stephen Roche
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| 5 | Zest for life |
kaykaydeutsc (X)
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| 4 +1 | joyous celebration of life |
IanW (X)
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| 3 +2 | exuberance / exuberant spirits |
Steffen Walter
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| 4 | good cheer |
Ineke Hardy
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| 4 | vitality |
Annika Neudecker
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| 3 | joyous, fee-flowing life |
Nicole Schnell
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| 3 | joie de vivre sounds a bit poncy ... |
TonyTK
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| 3 | gaiety |
CMJ_Trans (X)
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| 3 | pulsating atmosphere |
Henry Schroeder
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| 2 | life force |
MMUlr
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Change log
Aug 8, 2006 12:42: Marcus Malabad changed "Field" from "Kunst/Literatur" to "Geistes- und Sozialwissenschaften" , "Field (specific)" from "Allgemeines/Konversation/Grußworte/Briefe" to "Sozialwissenschaften, Soziologie, Ethik usw."
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:
Non-PRO (1): Nicole Schnell
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Proposed translations
+4
1 Stunde
HarryHedgehog
Deutschland
Deutschland
Native in Englisch
Deutschland
No, I don't care, but thanks for asking
Native in: Englisch 
Works in: Deutsch > Englisch
Related KudoZ points
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4
Selected
lust for life
Iggy said it best...
Note from asker:
| Now THAT's what I'd call an obvious (and perfectly feasible) answer ... |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
TonyTK
: Typical. Wait till wer're all exhausted, then slip in an easy one while no one's looking.
26 Min.
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I was away from my desk for a couple of hours because I gave blood - how's that for an excuse?
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| agree |
Lancashireman
: An attribute of participants in this forum.
32 Min.
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| agree |
roneill
: alliterative also
2 Stunden
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| agree |
natalia m (X)
23 Stunden
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "A sneaky last-minute winner, there."
+2
3 Min.
joi de vivre
or high spirits
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Steffen Walter
: joi*e de vivre ;-)
1 Min.
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ah, too much nose-picking in French class
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| agree |
lone (X)
1 Stunde
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| agree |
Ingeborg Gowans (X)
: this term is definitely understood in English as well
11 Stunden
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+6
5 Min.
Cilian O'Tuama
Deutschland
Deutschland
Native in Englisch
Deutschland
Quality Translations since 1986
Native in: Englisch
Works in: Deutsch > Englisch, Englisch, Deutsch, and 6 more.
Related KudoZ points
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20
joie de vivre
unless you object to the bl**din' obvious
;-)
;-)
Note from asker:
| Erm, sadly I do. This was indeed the first thing that occured to me, but was immediately discarded because I just feel it doesn't fit in. For me, it reeks more of 1960s cote d'azure. ;-) |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Kieran McCann
: I think this is indeed what we say for this in English, no doubt because we're unfamiliar with the concept ourselves.../could I borrow that shirt if it's going spare?/yeah, as long as there's a flexible dress code...
11 Min.
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the sort of tripe you find on CD leaflets / absolutely berserk! you at the powwow in Düsseldorf?
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TonyTK
: Surely there are still some single men out there ... // As a follow-up to Kieran's comment, I was suggesting that being married depletes the general supply of joie ve vivre. But you've gone and ruined it. // It wouldn't fit, mate.
20 Min.
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je ne follow pas / would it cheer you up if I lent you my shirt?
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Armin Prediger
24 Min.
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| agree |
Textklick
: I don't think it sounds 'poncy' (see below) Absolute standard expression. Only problem is that, like 'xenophobia', it's a bloody foreign word.
53 Min.
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I don't see anything wrong iwth it either - not reserved for Brigitte Bardot
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| agree |
writeaway
2 Stunden
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| agree |
roneill
3 Stunden
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| agree |
Trudy Peters
8 Stunden
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11 Min.
Zest for life
"Lebensfreude" literally translates into "Zest for Life" in English. It means to have a groove. It can also be defined as "to have a life filled with enthusiasm."
Example sentence:
Most Indian children are affectionate and warm and have a zest for life.
Note from asker:
| Works fine in your sample sentence - but in my case things are just a bid, erm, sweatier. Sorry, but I do have to question the validity of your "absolutely sure" confidence level in this context. ;-) |
12 Min.
life force
Only a (non-native) suggestion, a little bit off the "-freude" track, but also used in your very context:
http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2495...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/11/17/...
http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article.aspx?cp-documentid=2495...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2000/11/17/...
11 Min.
Nicole Schnell
Vereinigte Staaten
Vereinigte Staaten
Native in Deutsch
Works in field
Vereinigte Staaten
Award winning Advertising/Marketing
Native in: Deutsch 
Works in: Englisch > Deutsch, Deutsch > Englisch
Related KudoZ points
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7
joyous, fee-flowing life
energy-filled, full of live, flowing with energy.
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Note added at 14 mins (2006-08-08 10:37:02 GMT)
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"free-flowing", not "fee" (dang.)
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Note added at 14 mins (2006-08-08 10:37:02 GMT)
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"free-flowing", not "fee" (dang.)
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
IanW (X)
: My student days were pretty "fee-flowing" all right ... :-)
20 Min.
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Aww, do not mock my stupid typo. :-(
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15 Min.
joie de vivre sounds a bit poncy ...
Maybe "high spirits", "non-stop fun", ...
Note from asker:
| If I were an Answerer, you'd get a slam-dunk Agree from me on your headline, Mr. T. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Stephen Roche
: no poncier than menage a trois or fois gras//well let's face it, French toast is poncy for a Manc
1 Stunde
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Well, "foie gras" is really poncy for a Mancunian. I'm not sure about the "menage" thingy - probably depends who you do it with.
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writeaway
: but you agreed with joyous celebration of life and that sounds a bit "evangelical" (not wishing to beat about the bush)
1 Stunde
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Well, I started off with a "neutral" and changed it to an "agree". Ian pays well.
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21 Min.
gaiety
is what I would have said before the word was denatured....
Shame reallly.....
Shame reallly.....
54 Min.
Henry Schroeder
Vereinigte Staaten
Vereinigte Staaten
Native in Englisch
Specializes in field
Vereinigte Staaten
20 years of experience, certified, ATA
Native in: Englisch (Variant: US)
Works in: Deutsch > Englisch, Russisch > Englisch, Englisch
Related KudoZ points
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4
pulsating atmosphere
or pulsating with some other noun.
I found this idea of pulsating at some website on the city and think it would fit in your sentence. They used "pulsating city", but you would have to reconstruct your sentence to do that.
Another website did use "love of life" for Rio: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:m9HNFhEfBtMJ:www.carnav... (middle of second paragraph) - another viable option apparently.
P.S. I would use the plural "carnavals" rather than the singular, but that is probably a typo.
I found this idea of pulsating at some website on the city and think it would fit in your sentence. They used "pulsating city", but you would have to reconstruct your sentence to do that.
Another website did use "love of life" for Rio: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:m9HNFhEfBtMJ:www.carnav... (middle of second paragraph) - another viable option apparently.
P.S. I would use the plural "carnavals" rather than the singular, but that is probably a typo.
Note from asker:
| Yup. Good idea. That's the spirit! "Love of life" is also sound. |
+1
35 Min.
joyous celebration of life
Perhaps you could work in "joyous celebration of life" into the sentence. Better still, you could seek out the Portuguese equivalent of "joie de vivre" and if it is recognisable to the readership, I'd use that.
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-08 11:23:52 GMT)
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The Portuguese for "joie de vivre" is "prazer de viver", so that probably wouldn't work after all.
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Note added at 1 hr (2006-08-08 11:23:52 GMT)
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The Portuguese for "joie de vivre" is "prazer de viver", so that probably wouldn't work after all.
Note from asker:
| Funny. After returning from an invigorating half-hour midday manicure, the first notification mail I opened was Cilian's with "the bl**din' obvious" - prompting me to ponder (before refreshing the page): perhaps there is after all a relatively literal rendering which is not, however, joie de vivre. I thought: I wonder if anyone's suggested "celebration of life"? ... |
| I wonder how long it takes to clean R's ears out (never mind his tongue)? |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
TonyTK
: "Rooney foi prematurao bathao" // Changed it to "agree". Possibly slightly religious but it's been growing on me (your answer that is, not religion).
9 Min.
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And misunderstood "going for the tackle"
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Nesrin
: That would be "alegria de viver" in Portuguese, but I don't know how understandable that would be for the English reader (prazer=pleasure, alegria=joy. It's also the more common expression)
27 Min.
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Thanks - I don't think either of these would be understood by most readers, so better to drop the idea.
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+2
8 Min.
Steffen Walter
Deutschland
Deutschland
Native in Deutsch
Deutschland
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Native in: Deutsch (Variant: Germany)
Works in: Englisch > Deutsch, Deutsch > Englisch, Französisch > Deutsch, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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12
exuberance / exuberant spirits
... to add some variety ...
As an aside, am I correct that "joy of life" isn't exactly what you're after? (seems too obvious...)
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-08 12:25:21 GMT)
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Perhaps even "vibrant life/atmosphere" or "vibrancy", as an offshoot from Henry Schroeder's suggestion "pulsating atmosphere" (aka the "pulse of the city").
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-08 12:26:22 GMT)
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Never ever is this question Non-PRO, Francis - this is just too intricate.
As an aside, am I correct that "joy of life" isn't exactly what you're after? (seems too obvious...)
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-08 12:25:21 GMT)
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Perhaps even "vibrant life/atmosphere" or "vibrancy", as an offshoot from Henry Schroeder's suggestion "pulsating atmosphere" (aka the "pulse of the city").
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-08-08 12:26:22 GMT)
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Never ever is this question Non-PRO, Francis - this is just too intricate.
Note from asker:
| Yes, Steffen. You read my mind regards "joy of life". |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Stephen Roche
: exuberance is good
1 Stunde
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| agree |
Woodstock (X)
: Yes, I like this, too. A good fit, IMO.
4 Stunden
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3 Stunden
Ineke Hardy
Niederlande
Niederlande
Niederlande
Style, accuracy, and research skills
Native in: Niederländisch
Works in: Afrikaans > Englisch, Niederländisch > Englisch, Flämisch > Englisch, and 11 more.
good cheer
Not too "poncey" for the context? Or how about jollity.
Note from asker:
| I certainly appreicate the input, Inke, but I must again stress that any solution has to fit the specified sentence. ;-) |
12 Stunden
vitality
My 2 cents:
I'll go with "vitality" (in stark contrast to "Favelas"):
From http://www.brasilien.de/volk/bevoelkerung/favela.asp
"Das Leben unter den Umständen der Favelas kann man oft nur als Überlebenskampf bezeichnen. Dass diese soziale Situation die Eskalation von Gewalt und den Konsum von Drogen zur Folge hat, ist klar. Schiessereien, Raub und Vergewaltigungen sind an der Tagesordnung. Alkohol und Drogen "helfen" dabei, den harten Alltag zu vergessen."
"Vitality" is defined as "The capacity to live, grow, or develop".
I'll go with "vitality" (in stark contrast to "Favelas"):
From http://www.brasilien.de/volk/bevoelkerung/favela.asp
"Das Leben unter den Umständen der Favelas kann man oft nur als Überlebenskampf bezeichnen. Dass diese soziale Situation die Eskalation von Gewalt und den Konsum von Drogen zur Folge hat, ist klar. Schiessereien, Raub und Vergewaltigungen sind an der Tagesordnung. Alkohol und Drogen "helfen" dabei, den harten Alltag zu vergessen."
"Vitality" is defined as "The capacity to live, grow, or develop".
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