May 11, 2011 00:39
13 yrs ago
Russian term

рок­баржа

Russian to English Art/Literary Music History of rock music
Specifically: "Английская рок­баржа 60 х — создание мобильной бизнес­среды, умение справляться с внешними факторами".

This phrase appears in a list of metaphors, recommended for inspirational use in organizing businesses. I can't tell if the author is making a play on words with English "rock barges" (as in, barges carrying limestone down the St. Lawrence Seaway, or something like that), or arbitrarily referring to something like the Beatles' travelling operation, depicted in "A Hard Day's Night," as a "barge," or if I'm missing some use of "баржа" in Russian. Any ideas?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +2 rock 'n roll barges

Proposed translations

+2
3 hrs
Selected

rock 'n roll barges

Plural because no single barge seems to exist — http://goo.gl/i1kS4 — rock concerts and festivals are held on barges frequently; this most probably originates from A Hard Day's Night, an influential film as it is.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2011-05-11 12:42:17 GMT)
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A rockfest on a barge emerged when I googled for рок баржа — http://goo.gl/bV5Gg — one in 1997 in Ukraine (fest name Рок-фестиваль "БАРЖА-1997"), another in Ukraine (a section name Рок Січ. Епізод І: ''БАРЖА"). Then I remembered that rock festivals (e.g., Woodstock) started somewhere in the late 1960s.

I have always vaguely remembered that A Hard Day's Night (or Beatles, for that matter) is somehow related to a barge, whatever it was then (filming venue or something else).

Beatles had a "barge tour" in Hamburg — http://bandbase.co.uk/blog/2010/08/hamburg-bows-to-the-beatl... — perhaps this is where it all originates.

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Note added at 12 hrs (2011-05-11 12:59:08 GMT)
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Surprize! Music on the Barge — http://goo.gl/1OVo4 — seems to be relatively widespread, with rock 'n roll performers and otherwise, as, e.g. in "Barge" concerts are a time honored tradition dating back to 1959. — http://www.gravenhurst.ca/visitors/music-on-the-barge



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Note added at 12 hrs (2011-05-11 13:17:17 GMT)
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:))) That's just awesome. In the beginning, there was a barge and then in 250 years, give or take, we've got Smoke on the Water.
Note from asker:
Interesting idea. It even flitted across my mind, but I did a search that was too restrictive ("rock musicians" + "on a barge"), and then dismissed it because I don't think it was much of an institution, and, also, not particularly associated with the 1960s. To me, the British + barge + music leads to... Handel's Water Music!
Hah! It's not what I was thinking of in mentioning "A Hard Day's Night," because I don't remember any actual barge in that (?? - though I may have forgotten during the past, let's see, 45 years?), but it turns out that was partly filed at the "City Barge Pub," which is ... not a barge; it's called that because the State Barge of the Lord Mayor of London used to dock there! Maybe I wasn't so far off, with the Water Music.
... Or, 1717. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GeorgIvonGro%C3%9FbritannienGeorgFriedrichHaendelHamman.jpg The musicians are on the barge in the background.
Peer comment(s):

agree Denis Shepelev
2 hrs
Спасибо.
agree cyhul
6 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for your helpful observations (especially because my "rock" knowledge begins AND ENDS in the sixties, so I had to look up "Smoke on the Water," and I had only heard of Deep Purple because its current members were received in the Kremlin a few weeks ago!)"
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