Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
terceros que dependan de ella
English translation:
its (third-party) agents
Added to glossary by
philgoddard
Oct 2, 2014 17:59
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Spanish term
terceros que dependan de ella
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
software licensing agreement
The whole sentence:
"Por otro lado, EMPRESA XX garantiza que los servicios se prestarán conforme al acuerdo de nivel de servicios que se establece en el Anexo 3, salvo que ello no sea posible por causas imputables al cliente final, o a terceros que dependan de ella que intervengan en la prestación (como por ejemplo proveedores de servicios telefónicos o de Internet) ..."
it's the "de ella" that is foxing me...
Many thanks for any guidance.
"Por otro lado, EMPRESA XX garantiza que los servicios se prestarán conforme al acuerdo de nivel de servicios que se establece en el Anexo 3, salvo que ello no sea posible por causas imputables al cliente final, o a terceros que dependan de ella que intervengan en la prestación (como por ejemplo proveedores de servicios telefónicos o de Internet) ..."
it's the "de ella" that is foxing me...
Many thanks for any guidance.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +4 | its (third-party) agents |
philgoddard
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| 5 +1 | third parties dependent on the company |
Henry Hinds
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| 4 +1 | third parties under its control |
Tim Friese
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| 3 | related third-parties |
Giovanni Rengifo
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Change log
Oct 16, 2014 20:09: philgoddard Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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philgoddard
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its (third-party) agents
"Ella" is "empresa XX".
It literally means "third parties that are responsible to it", but "its agents" is a more concise way of saying this.
I put "third-party" in brackets because it's optional. Strictly speaking, agents can also include employees, though usually we separate the two out and say "employees and agents".
It literally means "third parties that are responsible to it", but "its agents" is a more concise way of saying this.
I put "third-party" in brackets because it's optional. Strictly speaking, agents can also include employees, though usually we separate the two out and say "employees and agents".
Peer comment(s):
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karin förster handley
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Ricardo Falconi
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neilmac
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Tim Friese
: I don't think 'agent' works here because that term in English strictly means those delegated power to act as another within the scope of an agency. The idea is certainly related to the source text but I don't believe it's quite the same.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "act as another within the scope of an agency", but an agent is someone doing something for someone else..
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Alejandro Alcaraz Sintes
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Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Giovanni Rengifo
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related third-parties
Please look for a standard definition of "related third parties".
I believe this may be the term you want to use here.
I believe this may be the term you want to use here.
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Tim Friese
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third parties under its control
Control seems to be the most widely used option, but responsibility and supervision are out there as well.
Here are google hits for "third parties under its": https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS51...
"User will not, and will not allow third parties under its control to: (a) copy, modify, create..." https://developer.qtcloudservices.com/legal/terms
"Seller shall maintain, and shall ensure that its contractors, agents and third parties under its control maintain, public liability and property damage insurance..." http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/California_Micro_Devices_(CAM...
I believe 'agent' is not appropriate because it has a fairly narrow legal definition: "a person who is authorized to act for another (the agent's principal) through employment, by contract or apparent authority. The importance is that the agent can bind the principal by contract or create liability if he/she causes injury while in the scope of the agency." http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/agent
Here are google hits for "third parties under its": https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS51...
"User will not, and will not allow third parties under its control to: (a) copy, modify, create..." https://developer.qtcloudservices.com/legal/terms
"Seller shall maintain, and shall ensure that its contractors, agents and third parties under its control maintain, public liability and property damage insurance..." http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/California_Micro_Devices_(CAM...
I believe 'agent' is not appropriate because it has a fairly narrow legal definition: "a person who is authorized to act for another (the agent's principal) through employment, by contract or apparent authority. The importance is that the agent can bind the principal by contract or create liability if he/she causes injury while in the scope of the agency." http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/agent
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Henry Hinds
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1200
third parties dependent on the company
Don't be foxed.
...o a terceros que dependan de ella = or (the fault of) third parties dependent on the company
"Ella" goes back to "EMPRESA".
In English it is preferable to repeat "company".
...o a terceros que dependan de ella = or (the fault of) third parties dependent on the company
"Ella" goes back to "EMPRESA".
In English it is preferable to repeat "company".
Discussion
I agree with you that far from being their agents or under their control, internet and phone service providers would indeed be independent.
So maybe I just put "third parties involved in..."?
Or as Giovanni says "related third parties"?
"De ella" does refer back to the company, but I believe the answers get it the wrong way round.
How can phone/internet service providers be under the control or be agents of this company?
It actually means the opposite.
The company warrants that xxx service will be rendered etc......, unless the end client is at fault or those on which the company is dependent, such as phone/internet/electricity connections, etc... After all, they're flogging software solutions. Standard disclaimer. May be missing something but can't really see it meaning anything else.