Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
onda corredera
English translation:
reflected/diffracted wave
Added to glossary by
James Arthur Williamson
Oct 29, 2015 17:39
8 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Spain
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Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, English
onda corredera
Spanish to English
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
civil works
From a project for extension of port facilities: "se ha diseñado un tacón adosado a dicho dique de abrigo de forma que se evite o disminuya sensiblemente la onda corredera".
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | forward/progressive wave |
Jennifer Levey
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| 4 | resulting wave |
Peter Guest
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| 3 | wave overtopping |
liz askew
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| 1 | oblique wave |
JoLuGo
|
Proposed translations
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Jennifer Levey
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Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
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forward/progressive wave
From my perspective as a telecoms engineer (where so many things are visualized in terms of wave motion in liquids), an "onda corredera" is what I would call a "forward/progressive wave". That doesn't (necessarily) mean it's moving 'forwards', rather that it's moving through a homogeneous medium (as distinct, for example, from a 'standing wave', which is formed when a wave meets its own reflection).
If you compare pages 53 (Spanish) and 56 (English) here
https://www.puertogijon.es/recursos/doc/Memorias/34609_35352...
(7.5MB download)
you will see that
impedir el paso de la onda corredera que procede del dique vertical
has been translated simply as:
preventing the passage of the wave coming from the vertical breakwater
IOW, from a wave theory point of view, you can omit the translation of 'corredora'; that is the default condition of all waves (they 'correr' - move or progress forwards).
If you compare pages 53 (Spanish) and 56 (English) here
https://www.puertogijon.es/recursos/doc/Memorias/34609_35352...
(7.5MB download)
you will see that
impedir el paso de la onda corredera que procede del dique vertical
has been translated simply as:
preventing the passage of the wave coming from the vertical breakwater
IOW, from a wave theory point of view, you can omit the translation of 'corredora'; that is the default condition of all waves (they 'correr' - move or progress forwards).
Note from asker:
| Thanks Robin, that's very convincing. |
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Your answer put me on the track. All the sources I have consulted in Spanish mention one common aspect: ondas/olas correderas are generated by incidence of the primary wave on an obstacle, often the head of a breakwater. They are reflected or diffracted waves and run in a direction different to that of the primary wave. They cannot be called secondary waves because that term is used in the field for waves originating in overtopping."
29 mins
wave overtopping
Wave overtopping at vertical and steep seawalls - University ...
www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/eng/staff/jmp/.../allsop-et-al-2005a.pdf
It is generally appreciated that seawalls can reduce, but will not wholly prevent wave overtopping. Overtopping is therefore implicit in UK and European practice.
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Note added at 34 mins (2015-10-29 18:13:45 GMT)
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oh,
I think I might have found it
wave run-up
CHAPTER 8 Wave run-up and overtopping Jentsje W. van ...
www.vandermeerconsulting.nl/downloads/...a/1998_vandermeer....
by JW van der Meer - Cited by 33 - Related articles
height of dikes, i.e. wave run-up and wave overtopping. Dikes usually have a ... Wave run-up and overtopping on sloping and vertical structures has been a major research topic ..... Only long swell, for example coming from the ocean, has such.
www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/eng/staff/jmp/.../allsop-et-al-2005a.pdf
It is generally appreciated that seawalls can reduce, but will not wholly prevent wave overtopping. Overtopping is therefore implicit in UK and European practice.
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Note added at 34 mins (2015-10-29 18:13:45 GMT)
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oh,
I think I might have found it
wave run-up
CHAPTER 8 Wave run-up and overtopping Jentsje W. van ...
www.vandermeerconsulting.nl/downloads/...a/1998_vandermeer....
by JW van der Meer - Cited by 33 - Related articles
height of dikes, i.e. wave run-up and wave overtopping. Dikes usually have a ... Wave run-up and overtopping on sloping and vertical structures has been a major research topic ..... Only long swell, for example coming from the ocean, has such.
45 mins
Peter Guest
Spain
Spain
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Specializes in field
Spain
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Native in: English
Works in: Catalan to English, Spanish to English, English to Spanish
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resulting wave
I'm not entirely certain about this, but your sentence continues "la onda corredera que se genera por procesos de refracción-difracción". I think this is the key. Waves refract when they reach shallow water and defract when they reach an obstacle. This is why you get waves in apparently sheltered harbours or bays. So by adding a quay or ramp to the mole the wave resulting from the refracted and defracted wind waves or swell entering the harbour is diminished.
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-10-29 19:07:35 GMT)
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By the way, the result of two waves interfering with each other (God, what an idea) is called the resulting wave.
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-10-29 19:07:35 GMT)
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By the way, the result of two waves interfering with each other (God, what an idea) is called the resulting wave.
Note from asker:
| Hi Peter. That's a constructive suggestion, thanks. I'll think about it. |
12 hrs
oblique wave
Waves that approach the beach at an angle (e.g., not straight-on) and generate longshore currents.
Longshore currents.
Current moving along (parallel to) the shore, generated by waves breaking at an angle to the shoreline.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 14:40:47 GMT)
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Además la incidencia oblicua
del oleaje también puede provocar, cuando el
muro está internado en el mar ondas correderas,
formadas al ser guiadas las ondas incidentes por el
frente del muro, girando e incidiendo con las ondas...
http://www.citop.es/publicaciones/documentos/Cimbra393_03.pd...
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 15:04:51 GMT)
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Cuando la incidencia del oleaje es muy oblicua el punto de reflexión se aleja de la estructura formándose una ola que se propaga paralela al dique (onda corredera)
Cuando la onda incide en un angulo mayor a un angulo critico, ademas de la onda incidente y reflejada, se crea una tercera onda corredera denominada "stem wave" que se propaga en dirección paralela al dique..
hera.ugr.es/tesisugr/1772837x.pdf (Procesos Hidrodinamicos en diques mixtos...
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 15:07:31 GMT)
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This study investigates stem waves, propagating along a vertical wall, due to obliquely incident random waves through laboratory experiments and numerical simulations.
Longshore currents.
Current moving along (parallel to) the shore, generated by waves breaking at an angle to the shoreline.
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 14:40:47 GMT)
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Además la incidencia oblicua
del oleaje también puede provocar, cuando el
muro está internado en el mar ondas correderas,
formadas al ser guiadas las ondas incidentes por el
frente del muro, girando e incidiendo con las ondas...
http://www.citop.es/publicaciones/documentos/Cimbra393_03.pd...
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 15:04:51 GMT)
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Cuando la incidencia del oleaje es muy oblicua el punto de reflexión se aleja de la estructura formándose una ola que se propaga paralela al dique (onda corredera)
Cuando la onda incide en un angulo mayor a un angulo critico, ademas de la onda incidente y reflejada, se crea una tercera onda corredera denominada "stem wave" que se propaga en dirección paralela al dique..
hera.ugr.es/tesisugr/1772837x.pdf (Procesos Hidrodinamicos en diques mixtos...
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Note added at 21 hrs (2015-10-30 15:07:31 GMT)
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This study investigates stem waves, propagating along a vertical wall, due to obliquely incident random waves through laboratory experiments and numerical simulations.
Note from asker:
| Hi JoLuGo. It's a breakwater, not a beach and these are waves, not currents, which behave in entirely different ways . Anyway, "Longbreakwater waves" doesn't get it I'm afraid. Thanks for your try. |
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