Studio 2009: TM search not working
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AZTranslations
AZTranslations  Identity Verified
Allemagne
Local time: 14:03
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Jul 25, 2009

Hello all,
I have a very irritating problem:
Existing matches in the TM are not found automatically in the results, but when I search for them via concordance, they are there, sometimes even 100% matches?!
Now I have to do a concordance search every time, copy and paste... takes way too long?!
Does anyone have the same problem and knows how to fix this?
I have the automation turned on under options and the TM checked as "search".
My PC runs on Windows XP.
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Hello all,
I have a very irritating problem:
Existing matches in the TM are not found automatically in the results, but when I search for them via concordance, they are there, sometimes even 100% matches?!
Now I have to do a concordance search every time, copy and paste... takes way too long?!
Does anyone have the same problem and knows how to fix this?
I have the automation turned on under options and the TM checked as "search".
My PC runs on Windows XP.

Thanks for your help.
Best regards
Anke
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Claudia Alvis
Claudia Alvis  Identity Verified
Pérou
Local time: 07:03
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Settings Jul 25, 2009

Check your Project settings, in the Language Pair section, the TM should have Lookup enabled. I don't have Studio opened now but it's one of the check-boxes. Also, I don't know if this is related or not, sometimes when I modify the fields, one or more of the TMs start acting up, but removing it from the project and adding it again fixes everything. Also, in Options, I'm not sure but in the Automation area, there should be a 'Lookup automatically' option.

Just in case, check your pen
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Check your Project settings, in the Language Pair section, the TM should have Lookup enabled. I don't have Studio opened now but it's one of the check-boxes. Also, I don't know if this is related or not, sometimes when I modify the fields, one or more of the TMs start acting up, but removing it from the project and adding it again fixes everything. Also, in Options, I'm not sure but in the Automation area, there should be a 'Lookup automatically' option.

Just in case, check your penalties in the Project Settings.
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AZTranslations
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AUTEUR DU FIL
Settings are correct Jul 26, 2009

Hello Claudia,

as I wrote initially, I have all the settings correctly configured, automation on, all the checkmarks in the right places...

I tried removing and adding the TM again, and it still doesn't work?!

Once I have accepted a translation, btw, it shows up if it is a match later on, but not the ones already in the TM from a previous, very similar project - those I have to find trough concordance, copy and paste.


 
Claudia Alvis
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Hotfix Aug 10, 2009

I just remember that I initially had that problem but after the second hotfix, it is gone.

 
Russell Keeley
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Royaume-Uni
Local time: 13:03
I'm having the same problem! Aug 21, 2009

Hello,

So, did you manage to get the problem solved in the end?

I'm having the same problem: I've imported a TMX into a TM in TRADOS Studio 2009 and I can see all my new TUs sitting there when I look at the TM, but for some reason they are not being found during translation, although the concordance search is working without any problem.

I only bought the software a few days ago so you would expect all the newest patches to have already been applied, but j
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Hello,

So, did you manage to get the problem solved in the end?

I'm having the same problem: I've imported a TMX into a TM in TRADOS Studio 2009 and I can see all my new TUs sitting there when I look at the TM, but for some reason they are not being found during translation, although the concordance search is working without any problem.

I only bought the software a few days ago so you would expect all the newest patches to have already been applied, but just in case I downloaded the latest hotfix and installed it to no avail. I've also been through every single one of the project settings with a fine tooth comb and everything is as it should be. I'm completely stuck!

Russell
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AZTranslations
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Allemagne
Local time: 14:03
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AUTEUR DU FIL
No, no solution found yet Aug 23, 2009

Hi Russell,
unfortunately, the recommendation with the hotfix did not solve the problem.
I'm still waiting for someone to help me with this. Until then it's concordance search, copy and paste....


 
Joshua Green
Joshua Green
Espagne
Local time: 14:03
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exactly the same issue Aug 27, 2009

Hello, my fellow sufferers.

I have been looking for a solution to exactly the same problem. I am very frustrated at having spent so much money on the new 2009 studio only to be facing this issue now.

It must be something we are doing wrong, or wouldn't many more people be posting about the problem? This is the only post I've seen so far on the issue.

I too have the search function enabled and am having to use fiddly concordance searches and copy and paste,
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Hello, my fellow sufferers.

I have been looking for a solution to exactly the same problem. I am very frustrated at having spent so much money on the new 2009 studio only to be facing this issue now.

It must be something we are doing wrong, or wouldn't many more people be posting about the problem? This is the only post I've seen so far on the issue.

I too have the search function enabled and am having to use fiddly concordance searches and copy and paste, even when i have 100% matches.

I hope someone posts a fix soon. If I find any resolution I'll post back.

josh

[Edited at 2009-08-27 22:07 GMT]
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HH Liefers
HH Liefers
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Match not found because of "field" settings Sep 14, 2009

I had this issue several times. I'm not sure about the reason. I can, however, describe one specific condition:

(1) Usually I work only with one master TM, and an old bigger master TM (for search only, no update), and not with project-specific TMs.
(2) For one project, I "prepared" (Batch) a newly added file/folder WITH a project TM. This Project TM was automatically named "[Project name]_[Master TM name]", and the settings from the Master TM were obviously taken over. That al
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I had this issue several times. I'm not sure about the reason. I can, however, describe one specific condition:

(1) Usually I work only with one master TM, and an old bigger master TM (for search only, no update), and not with project-specific TMs.
(2) For one project, I "prepared" (Batch) a newly added file/folder WITH a project TM. This Project TM was automatically named "[Project name]_[Master TM name]", and the settings from the Master TM were obviously taken over. That all happened without any interaction. - This means, translation units are now saved to the (new) project TM, PLUS should be saved to the Master TM.
(3) If - during translation - I click on Project Settings, I can only see the Master TM (and the referenced old Master TM), but NOT the project TM (which Studio runs quietly in the background), although all three are used during translation.
(4) For some reason, weeks later I decided to add another "field" to the Master TM's settings. You can do so in the TM View, having loaded and closed the TM, selecting the TM you want, and clicking File > Settings... > Fields and Settings > Add
===> At this point, the Master TM got an additional field, which was not known by the "hidden" project TM. My suspection is, that this is the reason, why even full matches were no longer found.
(5) From this time (my suspection), the error described in this thread appeared.

There were 2 options for solving the issue:
(1) Add the project TM (in the project's "Tm" folder) to the active TM list, and add the additional field in the Master TM to the project TM, too. This seems to create the kind of "TM compatibility" that Studio seems to require for working properly.
(2) Get rid of the project TM (this is a more complicated process, if you do not want to loose al the TUs you translated since creating the project).

For 2 projects (of the multiple that I keep running/ongoing throughout the year), that I let the Batch option create "with project TM" - by accident or by purpose - I tried both options above. Both resulted in finally proper "matching", after the "repair"

Perhaps this could help the one or other to get a solution or hint.
Perhaps it is alsoread by SDL's support.

HH
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AZTranslations
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Possible solution Sep 15, 2009

Hello all.

I think I now know the reason why this happens. HH touched on this, although the field problem does not apply for me. However, the project Tm is at the core of it all, as far as I understand it now. I had the chance to speak with an SDL expert at a fair, and he told me that SDL was aware of this and would include a different default in the next SP. Here's what he told me:

When setting up a new project, there is at one point the screen where you have to specif
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Hello all.

I think I now know the reason why this happens. HH touched on this, although the field problem does not apply for me. However, the project Tm is at the core of it all, as far as I understand it now. I had the chance to speak with an SDL expert at a fair, and he told me that SDL was aware of this and would include a different default in the next SP. Here's what he told me:

When setting up a new project, there is at one point the screen where you have to specify the task sequence, and the default is simply "prepare", which automatically creates a project TM, although you won't see it, as HH mentioned. Until you update the main TM, even the accepted translations will not show up in the main TM and are thus not available for other documents and projects!!

If you have worked with this default setting in the past, you may have to go through every project and manually update the main TM so that all translations appear in it for future projects and documents. To do this, you may have to reactive the project, so that the batch tasks under "project" appear again, then click on "update master TM".
Unless you need to send the TM to an agency or the client after you finished a translation, I strongly recommend using the "prepare without project TM" setting for the batch tasks!! If you have to use a project TM, make sure you update the main TM when you're finished!

It may help to set the project settings in general so that all translations are always updated regardless, but I'm not 100% certain. You find this under "Tools" and "Options", then "Language Pairs", "All language pairs", "Batch tasks" and "Update TM" (I'm using the German version, so I'M not sure about the exact names of these). Set the check mark at "Always add new translations to the TM".

I hope this helps!
Good luck!
Anke
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